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Name: Gareth Harris
Comment: Treble Clef opened in 1973. I acquired the business, then called The Record Forum, from a Mr Chapman who wanted to retire. The shop was managed, variously over time, by my wife, Helen, my son James and my brother Roger.

I had worked for WH Smith for several years in their record departments, rising to Head Office staff working with the wonderful Joanna Smith. By 1973 I was working for Polydor Records so only worked on Saturdays at the shop. Helen had also previously worked for WH Smith's record department - we met at the Bromley shop - and she later went on to open and run the first HMV shop in Bromley [situated in The Mall] before we opened Treble Clef.

We enjoyed many years of success as Treble Clef but later changed the name to Sound Store. Apart from feeling that we needed a more 'modern' name it also reflected the difficulty that customers had in spelling and writing out cheques to Treble Clef!

We had a good reputation, I believe - switched on and knowledgeable staff - we were also a chart shop. Although this was meant to be 'secret' it brought some advantages.

Unfortunately the shop closed in 1996; savage price cutting by the entry of the supermarkets made it hard to compete for small independents - plus the big new Sainsbury's Hypermarket opened at the bottom of Sydenham High Road taking away much of the High Street footfall. Coupled with this, the local council introduced yellow lines along the High Street and side roads inhibiting the quick passing trade that would often stop briefly. Getting a ticket made it an expensive stop!

Nevertheless, it was a wonderful 23 years and my family and I enjoyed meeting some delightful people in Sydenham.
(20 May 2013)

Name: Tony S
Comment: Wonderful insight there from Gareth - and much appreciated.

I remember the shop, and his brother Roger very well indeed. As a music lover and already a serious audiophile in my teens, I truly appreciated both the reasonable prices and customer service afforded by Treble Clef. This was one of the few shops, when some labels' pressing quality went through the floor in the late 1970s, who would calmly and persistently return bad pressings to the record companies, until their customers received something playable.

Gareth's connections (not least with Polygram) explain how come I ended-up almost worshipping Roger for his ability to source relatively obscure and rare material. Even more delighted when, in the late 1970s, Roger opened a second-hand section (no scratches allowed!) which became an additional delight as my taste for late 1960s and early 1970s music increased, but funds were still limited.

The shop served its customers well in many ways, not least also the range of good quality inner-sleeves, record care accessories and a very respectable range of both 'ordinary record player' and hi-fi replacement styli (needles!).

Only took my business elsewhere in 1984 when I (foolishly) moved away from London. Still visited (and bought records!) when I came back to visit the aging parents.

The good people of Sydenham were very well served indeed by this well-stocked, well-run and very amiable family business - I had wondered whether it was a chart shop - thanks for confirming!

Greedy record labels choosing to sell discount copies of mainstream material to supermarkets, plus a very limited choice offered by places like HMV have served not only to destroy a whole network of good record shops, but also to deprive the buying public on many levels, from being able to go listen to a range of things on a Saturday morning (or whenever) before buying, right through to the friendship and camaraderie which developed both over the counter and, on occasion, among other music lovers in the shop.
(4 August 2013)

Name: Angie Ballard
Comment: Wonderful memories Gareth. Thanks for sharing. Pleasure knowing you again after all these years.
(8 July 2015)

Comment: Hi there, I used to visit your shop on a regular basis. I remember trying to obtain the very first Street Sounds Electro album, and after many weeks, you finally managed to get it for me. Could you tell me, you used to have a chart on a clipboard which I would come and stare at every week? I remember this most clearly c.1982/83 where I would follow the soul and funk chart. I think you cut it from a magazine for our perusal, what was the publication called? I seem to remember there was also an Indie chart too. I am trying to jog my memory of tracks that were around at that time. Great memories from my youth. All the best, S.
(24 February 2016)

Name: Paul Baker
Comment: Spent a lot of money in Treble Clef, worked in Safeway a few doors down and would spend most of my wages on albums, my first single I bought was I Can See Clearly by Johnny Nash
(2018)

Name: Michaela Overton
Comment: I remember Treble Clef in the 1980s and 1990s and maybe the 1970s when I was a child. Seeing that sign, struck me, it made me believe if it was coming back? Someone should reinstate it, so that the people of Sydenham can buy vinyls and CDs again? I would like to see it existing again! Please bring it back!
(2020)

Liola Lee
05 Nov 2024 at 10:09
A bit late to this post! Just came across it while looking for something else. I worked at Treble Clef between 1978 and 1980. It was my Saturday job and holiday job in my last two years at school. I had a really happy time there! Enjoyed working there immensely for all manner of reasons! I was well looked after and received a huge 25% discount on records and tapes. I rarely went home with any of my pay as most of it went on records. I can honestly say it was a lovely establishment! Wish I’d stayed with them after I left school and accepted their offer of full time work! Been feeling nostalgic and reminiscent all week and this post shows up. Umm 🤔 there’s a message here somewhere. A really informative post! A joy to read on this November morning in 2024. I wonder if anyone will even see this?
Stephen Archer
27 Nov 2024 at 05:49
@Liola, you might possibly be interested in a talk Gareth Harris is giving about the record business at Croydon Library on Saturday 30 November 2024 at 2:30pm. More details here: https://libraries.croydon.gov.uk/events/174639
Jonathan Sharif
14 Jan 2025 at 03:12
Hi Liola & Stephen,

Hope you're both well. 😊

I just stumbled across your recent posts on here and was wondering if you happen to have a contact detail for Gareth Harris?

FYI, I'm producing a documentary (+ book) on record shops and am currently in the process of setting up a new centre & event space across the road from the record shop's original location on the corner of Tannsfeld Road in Sydenham, so would love to have a chat with him and get his input, if possible.

Please feel free to message me back at: [email protected]

Many thanks,

Jon
James Harris
08 Mar 2025 at 12:26
Jonathan, Gareth is my dad. Please give me details of what you require and I'll pass on to my father.
James

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1973
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1996

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